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New Vatican document affirms centrality of Catholic Church

Posted by: Phil Jayhan

July 10th, 2007

New Vatican document affirms centrality of Catholic Church

Vatican, Jul. 10, 2007 (CWNews.com) – The Vatican has issued a new doctrinal statement confirming the essential role of the Catholic Church in God’s plan for salvation.

The short document from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), presented in question-and-answer format, addresses questions about the teaching of the Second Vatican Council that the Church founded by Jesus Christ “subsists” in the Catholic Church.

The CDF affirms that while other Christian bodies can play a role in bringing people to salvation, it is in the Catholic Church that “the Church of Christ is concretely found on this earth.” The Vatican document makes a further distinction between Orthodox churches that have preserved valid sacraments, and should be recognized as “sister churches,” and Protestant groups that have not preserved the Eucharistic presence.

The document, entitled “Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church,” is approved by Pope Benedict XVI (bio – news) and signed by Cardinal William Levada and Archbishop Angelo Amato, the prefect and secretary, respectively, of the CDF.

The full text of the document is available on the Vatican web site. (Scroll down for the English-language version.)

The document opens with the observation that the teachings of Vatican II “contributed in a decisive way to the renewal of Catholic ecclesiology.” The teachings of the Council encouraged still further reflection on the nature of the Church, the CDF notes. However, in some cases these reflections have been marred by “erroneous interpretation which in turn give rise to confusion and doubt” about the Church’s teaching.

In the first of 5 questions posed and answered, the CDF document asks, “Did the Second Vatican Council change the Catholic doctrine on the Church?” The answer begins with a straightforward statement: “The Second Vatican Council neither changed nor intended to change this doctrine, rather it developed, deepened and more fully explained it.”

Questions #2 and #3 address the teaching of the conciliar document Lumen Gentium (doc) (#8) that the Church of Christ “subsists” in the Catholic Church. The CDF document explains: “It is possible, according to Catholic doctrine, to affirm correctly that the Church of Christ is present and operative in the churches and ecclesial Communities not yet fully in communion with the Catholic Church, on account of the elements of sanctification and truth that are present in them.” Nevertheless, only the Catholic Church is characterized by identifying marks of Christ’s Church: being one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.

The Christian communities separated from the Catholic Church, the CDF continues, “though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation.” These communities can act as instruments of salvation, because of their partial participation in “that fullness of grace and of truth which has been entrusted to the Catholic Church.”

In the 4th and 5th questions that complete the document, the CDF draws a clear distinction between the Orthodox and Protestant denominations. The Eastern churches, the document notes, “have true sacraments and above all – because of the apostolic succession – the priesthood and the Eucharist.” They are therefore sister churches, even if they fall short of universality because of their separation from the Holy See.

The Protestant communities, on the other hand, “do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of Orders.” Because these communities “have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery,” the CDF writes, they “cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called “churches” in the proper sense.

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Glossary Terms: Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

The Vatican – Pre-Inquisition

Posted by: Phil Jayhan

Original link: http://jmgainor.homestead.com/files/PU/Inq/pi.htm

Pre-Inquisition

Inquisition is defined by the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia in this way:

By this term is usually meant a special ecclesiastical institutional (sic) for combating or suppressing heresy….
New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia, Inquisition

And Merriam-Webster defines heresy as:

adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma.

Gregory IX offers this definition of a heretic:

In the decretals of Gregory IX., a heretic is defined to be a man “who, in whatever way, or by whatever vain argument, is led away and dissents from the orthodox faith and Catholic religion which is professed by the Church of Rome.”…
Decret. Gregorii IX. lib. v,. tit. vii. De Hereticis. quoted in The Papacy: Its History, Dogmas,Genius, and Prospects by Rev. J.A. Wylie, LL.D. Booke One, Chapter Six

Scriptural background on heresy:

Heresy in the Christian Church has been common since the time of Christ and the apostles. Paul wrote to the Corinthians:

For there must be also heresies among you, that they who are approved may be become evident among you. I Corinthians 11.19

The biblical method of dealing with heresy and heretics is, first, instruction, admonition, or rebuke. The elders, bishops, pastors are to be sound in spirit and doctrine, so that they might, by these means, win the gainsayers. If this is unsuccessful, excommunication is the last resort. In this way, the heretic is delivered over to Satan where, being cut off from the Church, he will be judged by God.

5 ¶ For this cause I left thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God … .
9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convict those who contradict.
10 For there are many rebellious and vain talkers and deceivers, especially they of the circumcision:
11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.
12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.
13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Titus 1.5, 7, 9-13

10 A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he who is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by himself. Titus 3.10-1

18 ¶ This charge I commit to thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies made before concerning thee, that thou by them mayest war a good warfare;
19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered to Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. I Timothy 1.18-20

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Secret Files of the Inquisition – This is a Must See Docudrama for every Man, Woman and Child!

This is a must watch Video series on PBS. Every man, woman and child needs to see this documentary about the Vatican, and why it is America was started out as a nation with separation between Church and State. This documentary is so well done, it is a must see video and should be required by every single student in order to graduate from School. Not all of the links here will work, such as the preview of the video; For that, go to the original link here: http://www.pbs.org/inquisition/

Posted by: Phil Jayhan, May 10, 2007

Premieres May 2007 Check your local listings Based on previously unreleased secret documents from European Archives including the Vatican, Secret Files of the Inquisition unveils the incredible true story of the Catholic Church’s 500-year struggle to remain the world’s only true Christian religion. At the dawn of the second millennium Europe was slowly emerging from the blackness and ignorance of the Dark Ages. There were no nations and the people were loyal only to their immediate community and to God. The keeper of God’s word was the Catholic Church, the only religion in all of Christendom. The supreme religious leader, the Pope in Rome, crowned the Kings who became rulers of the Holy Roman Empire stretching from Sicily north to Poland. The Emperor was ruler of the temporal world while the Pope and his Bishops reigned supreme over the Spiritual world. By the 12th and 13th century, cracks began appearing in this ordered world. Emperors no longer submitted to being crowned by the Pope and across Europe Kings demanded the right to select their own Bishops. But for the Pope the most terrifying threat came from upstart Christian sects who challenged church doctrine and the absolute power of the Roman Pope. To preserve the purity of the faith and the unquestioned authority of the Pope, the Church began to crack down on all dissenting with a new weapon: the Inquisition. For over half a millennium a system of mass terror reigned. Thousands were subject to secret courts, torture and punishment. Filmed in High Definition, this 4-hour series spans medieval France in Episode 1, 15th century Spain in Episode 2, Renaissance Italy in Episode 3 and mid-nineteenth century Europe in Episode 4. Historians, experts and Church authorities advise on the handling of this controversial subject matter. Secret Files of the Inquisition was produced by Inquisition Productions, who also created the related website www.inquisitionproductions.com DVDComing Soon from ShopPBS Website Funded By: Produced By: Secret Files of the Inquisition is a production of Inquisition Productions, Inc..© Copyright Inquisition Productions, Inc. MMVII. All Rights ReservedPBS Privacy Policy | Terms of Use

DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS – NOSTRA AETATE – PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS – POPE PAUL VI ON OCTOBER 28, 1965

Posted by: Phil Jayhan, April 7th, 2007

Notice in this Catholic Doctrine, how the Mother Harlot. Rome, treats all of her child prostitute religions, for they were all spawned by her, and those that weren’t, became quickly subverted and taken over by her, for she will have no other vicars for her seat of religious pomp, power and apostacy. Babylon the Great speaks, and when she does, she really doesn’t even hide all that much anymore, as she once did when she hid in the shadows and underground. Little by little Rome, Mother of all Harlots, and the Beast of Revelation, is making herself known to her knaves and slaves throughout the world. For one day soon, she plans on bringing a total end to the ecumenical movement, and bringing all religions, except true Christianity, under her wing. True Christianity will be abolished once and for all, and she will hunt down the saints of the world with vicious abandon. For the Father of this Harlot is Satan, and always has been, and always will be. –Phil Jayhan

DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS NOSTRA AETATE PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI ON OCTOBER 28, 1965 1. In our time, when day by day mankind is being drawn closer together, and the ties between different peoples are becoming stronger, the Church examines more closely he relationship to non- Christian religions. In her task of promoting unity and love among men, indeed among nations, she considers above all in this declaration what men have in common and what draws them to fellowship. One is the community of all peoples, one their origin, for God made the whole human race to live over the face of the earth.(1) One also is their final goal, God. His providence, His manifestations of goodness, His saving design extend to all men,(2) until that time when the elect will be united in the Holy City, the city ablaze with the glory of God, where the nations will walk in His light.(3) Men expect from the various religions answers to the unsolved riddles of the human condition, which today, even as in former times, deeply stir the hearts of men: What is man? What is the meaning, the aim of our life? What is moral good, what sin? Whence suffering and what purpose does it serve? Which is the road to true happiness? What are death, judgment and retribution after death? What, finally, is that ultimate inexpressible mystery which encompasses our existence: whence do we come, and where are we going? 2. From ancient times down to the present, there is found among various peoples a certain perception of that hidden power which hovers over the course of things and over the events of human history; at times some indeed have come to the recognition of a Supreme Being, or even of a Father. This perception and recognition penetrates their lives with a profound religious sense. Religions, however, that are bound up with an advanced culture have struggled to answer the same questions by means of more refined concepts and a more developed language. Thus in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery and express it through an inexhaustible abundance of myths and through searching philosophical inquiry. They seek freedom from the anguish of our human condition either through ascetical practices or profound meditation or a flight to God with love and trust. Again, Buddhism, in its various forms, realizes the radical insufficiency of this changeable world; it teaches a way by which men, in a devout and confident spirit, may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation, or attain, by their own efforts or through higher help, supreme illumination. Likewise, other religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing “ways,” comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites. The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. Indeed, she proclaims, and ever must proclaim Christ “the way, the truth, and the life” (John 14:6), in whom men may find the fullness of religious life, in whom God has reconciled all things to Himself.(4) The Church, therefore, exhorts her sons, that through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions, carried out with prudence and love and in witness to the Christian faith and life, they recognize, preserve and promote the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the socio-cultural values found among these men. 3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting. Since in the course of centuries not a few quarrels and hostilities have arisen between Christians and Moslems, this sacred synod urges all to forget the past and to work sincerely for mutual understanding and to preserve as well as to promote together for the benefit of all mankind social justice and moral welfare, as well as peace and freedom. Discuss this in our Forums! Click on the Banner Below